The use of a factory mark is a practice scarsely followed by italian silversmiths and usually the identification of the maker relies only on the number introduced in 1935 on the lozenge mark. Most are black silhouettes, but some of those that have been produced from photographs have a quasi 3 dimensional appearance that requires the onlooker. Rules, regulations and scales applicable to the proof of small arms. Remove unwanted marks under no circumstances may be applied. Many old guns may have been reproved once or more, often in a different proof house from the original one.
All proof marks on all weapons rifle and pistol as well as shot gun for these date codes, yes. Typographically speaking, the line segments are referred to as guillemets, a diminutive of the french name guillaume whose equivalent in english is william, after the french. Proof codes for date of manufacture for italian replica sixshooters people ask, how old is my insert make here. It is an 84f, dang near new and i am trying to decipher the proof marks. I love the people i have gotten to meet in sass and the ones that have just talked to on the wire. This is a recording of a workshop given at the 2014 afte association of firearm and toolmark examiners conference in seattle, on. Italian made cap and ball sixguns have a variety of markings that denote the year of manufacture, the proof houses where it was tested and the manufacturers name or logo. See imperial french bayonet markings france postwar unknown mark on famas bayonet dlt establishment regional du materiel erm manufacture darmes st.
Rules, regulations and scales, birmingham proof house. Proof mark circa proof house type of proof and gun since 1951 brescia provisional proof for all guns. Rules, regulations and scales of proof made or altered under section 117 of the principal act measurements whether length, area, volume, mass or weight may be expressed in imperial or in metric units, where internationally. This article is a list of standard proofreaders marks used to indicate and correct problems in a text. For corroboration, crossreference with the proof house controllers mark. The proof house marks and manufacturing code are stamped elsewhere on the gun. These are usually handwritten on the paper containing the text. For what it is worth, i sat one morning in the gardone proof house and watched the same specifictaion guns being proofed at 900 bars and at 1200 bars. Prior to 1954, the year of proof was indicated in full arabic numerals. The proof master the proof house 48 commercial road london e1 1lp united kingdom. Italy started rather late with proofmarks, they started on december 30. France, belgium and italy towards the close of the sixteenth century, england.
I love the hugs i get and the ones i will get when i meet some on you. Following is a chart displaying the year of proof symbols used from 1954 to 2009. Mca tradename used by steyr daimler puch on rifles made in steyr, austria. The answer is not perhaps as obvious as it is with things made in usa and collected in usa, say colt, sw, ruger, winchester, remington. Proof the testfiring of a gun with an extraheavy load, at an official establishment, to verify the safety of a gun, which is then marked with formal stamps showing, among other things, the loads for which it is intended. Lli pietta, is stamped with a variety of markings italian proof. When it comes to proof marks, something not shown in the books always shows. A single letter, either roman or greek, upper or lower case, underlined or not. In general the importation of foreign arms, bearing no proof marks or bearing marks not now recognised is an offence, unless those arms are submitted to a proof house within 28 days of arrival. The barrel pictured is a perfect example as it bears all of the italian proof marks described. Leonardo antaris, astra automatic pistols, has some good, though incomplete, material on spanish proofs. Gerhard wirnsberger, the standard directory of proof marks translated by r. Such a structure is often subjected to loads above that expected in actual use, demonstrating safety and design margin.
Symbols are interleaved in the text, while abbreviations may be placed in a margin with an arrow pointing to the. Steindler has a lot of material, if you have the fortitude and energy to dig it out. My parker hale 270 as it was proved in birmingham has the crossed sword x date code on it. Guns with shorter chambers may be submitted voluntarily for this proof. Proof correction marks based on bs 5261 part 2 instruction textual mark margin mark comment no corrections on this page none mark indicates that the page has been looked at. Our clients are investors, collectors, and those who simply want to shoot one of the worlds most recognized and coveted hand guns. I love the hugs i get and the ones i will get when i meet some on you people. Markings on gun barrels and other gun components that indicate the level of pressure, calibre and standards that a weapon is fit for in service the drawings vary in style due to differences in the original information. Italian quotation marks fra virgolette types and uses. Superior or magnum proof is the psf under twin stars, prova superiore in italian.
I am new in this forum, i have a shotgun eigebarspain, 410 gauge 3chamber, with 3 marks, one is spanish option smoke less 1931, spanish addmission proof for eibar since 1931, and spanish definitive black p. This is from a deluxe engraved pedersoli le page pistol, and all of the stampings are on the underside of the barrel. Italian replica cowboy pistols are probably the most likely place to find black powder proofs today. Italian proof mark is rather straight forward, normally one cant get.
Marks come in two varieties, abbreviations and abstract symbols. An individual proof test may apply only to the unit tested, or to its design in general for massproduced items. Black powder only made in italy and that type of marking isnt listed in the pdf. The same model gun, an 1860 army for example, man ufactured in italy and sold by uberti or f. Proof mark circa proof house type of proof and gun since 1950 e.
Welcome to phoenix investment arms, investment grade german lugers. The proof master the gun barrel proof house banbury street birmingham b5 5rh united kingdom. Amongst proof marks are codes enabling one to determine the date of manufacture of many guns. There is no maker mark except on the brass on the bottom of the grip. Mck tradename and abbreviation tor mckeowns guns on italian shotguns. Sample photos of their layouts are at the bottom of the page. I admit it wasnt a very well made kit with all the tool marks on the barrell and it took lots of work to get it smooth. Proof marks can be a very valuable aid to the forensic firearms investigator as.
Determination of manufacturing date of confiscated shotgunsa. The majority of marks will be found on the barrel flats, though early guns may have stamps on the tubes, under the forend. Im beginning to wonder if its actually a pietta rather than a pedersoli. Following is a chart displaying the year of proof symbols used from 1954 to 2003.
Moder modern black powder prn black powder proofmarksoofmarks. The deer head with bracketed with g t may be a private stamp or a heraldic crest. However it seems to be a much later proof certifcate and unlikely to refer to a 1950s shotgun. Previous reciprocal agreement continues with the republic of ireland as it is not a member of. I do like to shoot and pick on people at the shoot.
Normally the d in the area of the cylinder scene would be turned 90 degrees clockwise in this photo. The italian proof houses in gardone and valtrompia have been around for a very long time but as far as reproduction black powder arms are concerned, the dating begins in 1954. Mckeowns guns importer of italian shotguns in pekin, illinois since 1970. The mark is pr with the letters overlapping each other. I suspect your marks have the same meaning as this. Conclusively, the use of proof marks and serial numbers to determine the manufacturing date of seized. Colt model 1860 army revolver inspection marks by charles pate the cylinder inspection marks on model 1860 army serial number 90163 are somewhat unusual in that they are oriented the same. Republic, the federal republic of germany, the italian republic and the spanish state, noting that the convention of 15 july 1914 2 regarding the establishment of uniform regulations for the reciprocal recognition of official proof marks on firearms is no longer responsive to. Mb date code on german m98 rifles with swv marks signifying that it was made in late 1944 early 1945. The table below can be used to see if your gun was proofed in london or birmingham.
My guess from a bit of research is that the psf and what looks like crossed rifles are italian proof marks. According to my book on proof marks psf with two stars is the mark for the obligatory proof 17,637 psi for shotguns with chambers longer than 70mm 2 34. Please check also the the word brain 81 pages, free pdf. These arrowlike punctuation marks are the traditional italian quotation mark glyphs in fact, theyre also used in other languages, including albanian, french, greek, norwegian, and vietnamese.
Luger gunsinvestment grade collectible german lugers. In regards to the lack of other proof marks unmarked revolvers no is property or bpc period british markings have been noted that were shipped during the transition from bpc contracts to us lend lease contracts pate i have seen a few others without proof marks in the low to mid 800,000 serial number range. Proof masters in london and birmingham can be contacted at the addresses below. The two i have so far is a star above psf which is gardone and brescia defenitive smokeless proff and a star over a shield with crossed rifles which is gardones provisional proof. A book containing all the currently valid, foreign and uk proof marks, is available at a small charge from the london and birmingham proof houses. A proof test is a form of stress test to demonstrate the fitness of a loadbearing structure. Welcome thank you for visiting our online listing of manufacturers identifying marks, referred to more commonly as proof marks, arsenal or inspector marks. Part v proof marks used by the british proof authorities 14 20. This is a selection of marks used by italian silversmiths of the 20th century.
Etienne mas manufacture darmes tulle mat germany 18711918 see trademarks found on imperial german bayonets imperial german bayonet makers 18711918 imperial german royal cyphers 18711918. Proof testing is nominally a nondestructive test, particularly if both. Look under the barrel at the proof marks and see if they are italian or spanish. Proof codes for date of manufacture for italian replica. Leave unchanged stet intercolor consortium often added to cancel an instruction wrongly requested. We have provided you with this information in an attempt to clear up some wrong information that we have found on this subject.
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